EP 123 Racism & Mateship in Australia/Sisonke Msimang

In this episode, Sadhana and I speak with Sisonke Msimang who is a renowned writer, speaker and facilitator. Her work is focused on race, gender and power.  She’s been a columnist with the Guardian, written for a range of international publications and served as program director at the Centre for Stories.  She is also the author two books – Always Another Country:  A Memoir of Exile; and Home and The Resurrection of Winnie Mandela.  In this episode, Sisonke generously shares her upbringing, leaving and returning to South Africa as a young adult and her journey to Australia. We talk frankly about how race and racism is so coded, how people are often in stealth mode when mentioning racism, we talk about fragility, courage and gratitude and how we can turn the value of mateship in Australia, into something that unites us. Please enjoy this intelligent conversation on race from one of Australia’s best writers and storytellers, Sisonke Msimang.