Julien and Kiersten Saunders are the authors of the bestselling book, Cashing Out: Win The Wealth Game By Walking Away. The Cashing Out podcast is a series of conversations with experts, authors and friends on topics covered in the book.

In this podcast episode, they’re joined by leading Diversity, Equity and Inclusion expert, Deepa Purushothaman. Deepa is the author of, The First, The Few, The Only and founder of nFormation; a company that provides a safe space for professional women of color. She’s a leading expert in Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion and joins hosts Julien and Kiersten Saunders to share her personal story of how work deteriorated her own health. They discuss the role DEI plays in advancing careers, whether it has been accepted by Corporate America and the “delusions” that impact the experiences of people of color at work.

Can’t-miss moments
00:02:09 — 1: Leaders always use the phrase “melting pot” to talk about diversity
00:03:40 — 2: Predicting the future of diversity in Corporate America
00:06:54 — 3: Why wellness was an important topic to cover and her decision to quit Deloitte
00:09:19 — 4: The process of unpacking her identity from her career
00:11:23 — 5: If DEI helps companies outperform their competitors, why aren’t more doing it?
00:13:13 — 6: How DEI leaders are interpreting the message
00:14:51 — 7: Employees are the most skeptical segment of the organization
00:15:46 — 8: Our experience with Black executives while writing Cashing Out
00:17:46 — 9: The looming recession and the pressure on DEI
00:18:21 — 10: The psychological implications of not feeling powerful as a cultural leader
00:19:20 — 11: Culture is at the top of the list of factors to consider when looking for work
00:19:58 — 12: Where should DEI efforts rank on the list of factors to consider?
00:21:57 — 13: The 2022 word of the year, gaslighting
00:22:21 — 14: How to be rich enough to speak your truth
00:23:01 — 15: Are women of color hesitant to label their workplaces as toxic?
00:25:06 — 16: Toxic rockstars and toxic cultures
00:28:25 — 17: Unlearning what you think is ‘normal’ and holding space for something healthy
00:29:36 — 18: The corporate workplace is not a meritocracy
00:30:21 — 19: The importance of telling your story
00:31:45 — 20: The trust cost of being ‘the first’ is being the only
00:34:11 — 21: How to prepare the next generation
00:35:52 — 22: The ten delusions people have about their careers
00:37:35 — 23: The ‘inclusion delusion’ reveals a paradox about rising in an organization
00:38:05 — 24: The 40-hour work week is based on the idea of a two-parent household
00:40:04 — 25: Questioning the way people are taught about work, generationally

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Footage and locations seen in this series include:

-Barnes & Noble Metairie
-Audobon Park
-JamNola
-The Voodoo Museum
-Jackson Square
-Baldwin & Company Bookstore
-The Vintage coffee shop
-Turkey & The Wolf restaurant
-Drago’s Metairie
-Canopy, by Hilton
-Daquiri Run on 61
-Tava Indian Street Food
-St. Louis Cemetery

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